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CSPAN Live RealPlayer Feed of Joint Session contesting certification of Ohio's results

There was just an INCREDIBLE speech from Dennis Kucinich, and its bouncing around between different people now, its really great.


well sorry if you missed it, it was pretty good, lots of passionate speeches from the left and the usual bull from the right, capped off by DeLay saying it was a "disgrace," "partisan," etc. and doing it with a straight face.
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Date:January 6th, 2005 08:34 pm (UTC)
The Democrats can make great points on an issue, but the Republicans can just make fun of Michael Moore and pass it off as a winning argument. Also, it's very clear that it's the minorities vs. the white men. Although I'm white, I just hate white people.
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Date:January 6th, 2005 08:40 pm (UTC)
first: haha that is an AWESOME icon!

now to the real content: yes that is exactly the problem. clever little soundbites about the dissenting democrats being on the side of michael moore who everyone knows is a liberal wacko is what will get on the news. not the impassioned speeches of congressmembers who PERSONALLY saw people being intimidated and denied the right to vote, and the craziness of discarding registrations for "not being on 80 weight paper." the fact that its so easy to say "we need to accept the result and move on" instead of "we accept the result, and do not expect to change it, but the SYSTEM IS FLAWED" and that we are one of 11 countries without a national election standard

and they EVEN get by with STILL saying that the media has a liberal bias!

if it wasn't so fucking scary it would be funny

(ps: i'm white and i hate the stereotypical white guys just as much as al sharpton or jesse jackson (sr or jr) because they give guys like you and me a bad rap.)
Date:January 6th, 2005 09:26 pm (UTC)
That was a really well thought out reply, I applaud you.
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Date:January 6th, 2005 11:04 pm (UTC)
*shrug* i didn't really think it out that much, it just flowed...

i can pull off crap like that but not pass my classes. :(
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Date:January 7th, 2005 01:22 am (UTC)
Yeah, watching the House debate on C-SPAN was an astounding visual. It wasn't so much that there were no white Representatives arguing for the objection (though there were precious few) as that there were no non-white Representatives arguing against it.

DeLay was unbelievable. It just reminded me again that having the facts on our side is not enough...
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